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Top Federal Election Official Corrects Trump: ‘Counting Ballots—All of ‘Em—Is the Appropriate, Proper, and Very Legal Way to Determine Who Won’ | “An election is not a reality show with a big reveal at the end,” said FEC Commissioner Ellen Weintraub.

Top Federal Election Official Corrects Trump: 'Counting Ballots—All of 'Em—Is the Appropriate, Proper, and Very Legal Way to Determine Who Won' | "An election is not a reality show with a big reveal at the end," said FEC Commissioner Ellen Weintraub.

Top Federal Election Official Corrects Trump: ‘Counting Ballots—All of ‘Em—Is the Appropriate, Proper, and Very Legal Way to Determine Who Won’ | “An election is not a reality show with a big reveal at the end,” said FEC Commissioner Ellen Weintraub.



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  1. This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/10/28/top-federal-election-official-corrects-trump-counting-ballots-all-em-appropriate) reduced by 73%. (I’m a bot)
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    > Countering President Donald Trump's false suggestion Tuesday that tallying votes after Election Day is unlawful, a top official at the U.S. Federal Election Commission said that in fact "Counting ballots-all of 'em-is the appropriate, proper, and very legal way to determine who won.”

    > "An election is not a reality show with a big reveal at the end," Ellen Weintraub, an election attorney and a Democratic commissioner at the FEC, tweeted in response to Trump's insistence that a winner be officially declared on the night of November 3.

    > In his opinion, Kavanaugh declared that absentee ballots arriving after Election Day-which is allowed in more than a dozen states-could "Flip the results of the election." But as Justice Elena Kagan noted in her dissent, "There are no results to 'flip' until all valid votes are counted.”

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  2. Everyone, take note of the executive order Trump pushed to enable fire people in government positions. She’s probably the reason.

  3. Trouble is Kavanaugh’s argument now gives precedent to disregarding ballots postmarked by the required time that arrive after election day.

    His ludicrous argument was counting all the votes, including those submitted on time but received late, “flips” the election.

    Obviously sane people realize counting all the votes is what determines the result; You can’t flip anything until the votes are counted.

    Activist judges are rewriting how our elections work.

    This was supposed to be a state issue.

  4. Trump will try to cheat. We cannot get complacent. Please VOTE and encourage others to do the same. We need to make sure he does not have a chance to steal another 4 years.

  5. I don’t give a flying shit who you support or don’t. But every last goddamn vote should be counted. This country should do everything in its power to insure all voters can cast their ballots safe, efficient and it is tabulated correctly. Any person responsible for altering these conditions should be prosecuted.

  6. Okay guys — I know there is a lot of stress about the “red mirage” or “unfaithful electors” scenario.

    These aren’t the only possible ways Trump could steal the election, but they’re the most cited. IANAL but I don’t think either are likely, here is why:

    The Red Mirage:
    In this scenario, Trump prematurely declares victory because he is polling ahead the night of the election, Biden then comes ahead with the counting of mail-in ballots.

    Why it Won’t Happen: Not all states count in-person ballots first. In fact, several states, most notably FL, release absentee ballots first. Trump has a <1% chance of winning without FL.

    Other states that will report early in-person or mail-in first include Iowa, North Carolina, and Ohio.

    Source: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/10/27/upshot/election-results-timing.html

    The Unfaithful Electors:
    In this scenario, Trump loses but republican-lead state legislatures send unfaithful electors to congress in December, thus electing Trump.

    Thankfully, we elected a lot of Dem governors over the last 4 years including in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Arizona, and Wisconsin. Trump can’t with without these states.

    If there is a dispute between the state Executive (who certifies the vote) and the legislature, the Executive’s certification is taken as final.

    Source: https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?edition=prelim&req=granuleid%3AUSC-prelim-title3-section15&num=0

    Summary:

    This isn’t to say there aren’t other ways this thing could be stolen or fucked with. If we VOTE NOW and VOTE EARLY, he doesn’t have a chance.

    There may be violence, there may be confusion, but DONT GIVE INTO FEAR. Our election system works.

    VOTE VOTE VOTE.

    Copy and paste this to stop the spread of FUD.

  7. “All we get on Election Night are projections from TV networks. We *never* have official results on Election Night”

    thank you. Exactly this.

  8. Trump is absolutely going to declare victory on Tuesday night. It is certain.

    The real test will be if media companies take the bait.

  9. My favorite reality tv line “at the end of the day”….yes at the “end of the day” Biden will be president.

  10. “Counting” is not something Trump will ever do. He believes in the deal. Every bankruptcy is a deal with the judge and the creditors where trump screws them over and calls it a win.

    Accounting is a whole process that reveals his debts and deals and criminal ties. It’s not that hard to see him for the pawn and tool he is for the Russian mafia. Just look at the people surrounding him, it’s truly exhausting the constant push toward Scewing America Over Again

    You don’t get to keep borrowing declaring bankruptcy, making deals, without making deals with the mafia loan sharks.

  11. this is good to hear. Their little weather balloons about a fascist takeover with the guise of legality via a bogus supreme court ruling is being shot down, hard.

    More of this, please.

  12. Trump loves reality TV. Let’s hope Biden wins in a landslide so every paper in America can plaster Agent Orange’s face on the front page with the headline, “THE BIGGEST LOSER.”

  13. If he’s losing at the end of the day on the 3rd, I think it’s perfectly reasonable to allow him to have it his way and stop counting.

  14. Reading these posts about the US votes not being counted, or fake ballot boxes made me think I was in some kind of parallel universe!!!!

    I thought this sort of thing only happened in sketchy African democracies run by tin pot dictators!!!!

    Even if Trump does get hauled out the WH, looking from the outside (I’m in the UK) American politics it pretty screwed. The leading democracy in the world don’t seem so democratic anymore 🙁

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